I love how the various book promos are making this the “big” question of book 7. We were at Borders a few days ago, and all their promo material is centered around this question. They have little strips of paper with the “Good Snape” data points on one side and the “Bad Snape” data points on the other. Most of this discussion centers around the ambiguity of Snape’s behaviour in Books 5 & 6. For most of Order of the Phoenix, we see Snape fighting on the Side of The Good. Then cracks appear during Occlumency lessons, leading to the big confusion in Half-Blood Prince. Snape does something pretty much unforgivable at the conclusion of that book, but there are enough questions surrounding his motivation for that act to leave things up in the air.
As I was rereading the graveyard scene in Goblet of Fire last night, I was struck by something Voldemort said as he reviewed the Death Eaters.
There are six vacant spots for missing Death Eaters in the circle around Voldemort. During his strutting monologuing, he recaps the whereabouts of those in an oblique way.
- Three are in Azkaban
- One Faithful Servant is in place at Hogwarts. We know by the end of the book that this is Bartemius Crouch, Jr.
- One is a coward and will be killed. We find out during subsequent books that this is Karkaroff.
- One Voldemort believes “has left him forever”. This must be, by power of deduction, Snape. During the confrontation with Fudge in the Hospital wing at the end of Book 4, Snape shows the Dark Mark on his arm and explains the way it works. So we know clearly that he is still a branded Death Eater. He is not the coward, because he didn’t turn in fellow Death Eaters, as did Karkaroff. He is not the “faithful servant” because he is not the one who made arrangements to deliver Harry to the graveyard in Little Hangleton. Therefore, Snape MUST be the Death Eater whom Voldemort believes has “left him forever.” When Snape returns to Voldemort it is clearly under Dumbledore’s orders. We see the order given in the Hospital Wing. Later, in Spinner’s End, Snape tells Bellatrix Lestrange that his three hour delay in returning to Voldemort bought Snape the right to act as an efficient double-agent. That conversation is supposedly the “out” for Snape’s late return.
- We know Snape is the source of Voldemort’s incomplete information about the Prophecy.
- We know that Voldemort was angry about being vanquished by Harry in Godric’s Hollow.
- Voldemort clearly believes that Snape has ‘left him forever’ . This would indicate that Snape was defellowshipped prior to the events in the books. So he is not acting as a double-agent prior to the end of Book Four.
- When Snape does return to Voldemort it is under Dumbledore’s orders. At that point he would be an agent of Dumbledore. Part of that duty would be to convince Voldemort that Snape is acting as an agent on Voldemort’s behalf.
My conclusion? That Snape is ‘good’ and still acting on behalf of the Order during Books 5 & 6.




SPOILER!!!
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But WHY did he kill Dumbledore??? I’ve thought and thought and thought about it…I can’t figure it out!!! I can’t wait till it comes out…it’s driving me up the freaking WALL!
I’ve read that Good Snape/Bad Snape flyer (bookmark?) too and I have to say it surprised me. I had sort of accepted that he was a bad guy after the Dumbledore event referenced above. But the flyer’s info reminded me that it wasn’t quite that simple. (I’m a fan of the Potter books, but not a fanatic–I don’t remember everything.)
Anyway, I guess we’ll soon find out. Mayhaps Dumbledore set this up somehow–it was his time?
I’ve read that Good Snape/Bad Snape flyer (bookmark?) too
Roger, stop that. In the first draft of this post I had written the description just that way, with “(bookmark?)” after the initial descriptor.
Get out of my brain.
But WHY did he kill Dumbledore??? I’ve thought and thought and thought about it…I can’t figure it out!!!
The short version is that he had to prove his loyalty to Bellatrix and Narcissa by taking the Unbreakable Vow. That meant that he had to swear to kill Dumbledore if Draco Malfoy failed.
When DD and Harry return to Hogwarts, Dumbledore knows he is dying. Snape & Malfoy meet them (DD & invisible Harry). DD doesn’t want Malfoy to bloody his hands with a death.
During the Murder Scene, we see fury in Snape’s eyes and DD saying “Please, Severus”. I’m in the camp that believes the correct read on this is that DD was actually ASKING Snape to kill him. This would spare Draco from getting his hands bloody and keep Snape from blowing his cover.
I’m in the camp that believes the correct read on this is that DD was actually ASKING Snape to kill him. This would spare Draco from getting his hands bloody and keep Snape from blowing his cover.
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You make a good point….that would have DD as the ultimate martyr…I can see that. He WOULD do anything to see that Voldemort is destroyed. He probably had a lot of guilt about bringing him to Hogwarts in the first place. I can see him taking the fall for the greater good. The thing that keeps me wondering is when Snape’s fleeing w/Malfoy and he gets into it w/Harry, he’s such an ASS to him….but I guess that’s all about staying in “character” for Snape. He was probably all pissed cause he knew he had to kill DD and he was trying really hard to stay in character….argh, I dunno, I just need to drag em all out and reread. It’s about that time anyway…when’s 7 coming out…July 21st? Yea, if I start now, I can read VERY SLOWLY and take notes.
I am still firmly in the Snape’s a bad guy camp, but you present a very good argument. I’m pulling out all the books and re-reading as we speak.
Well, pretty soon I’ll be going back to the beginning of the HP series with the boy, who’s probably a tad young for it but that’s never stopped me before. Maybe I’ll pick up some clues as I go along.
Every Christ story needs a Judas. In my opinion, this is Rowling having a go at the “Judas Problem” — is Judas damned for his betrayal of Christ or is he the necessary evil that must exist for salvation to be set in motion (and acting at Christ’s command)? The Gospel of Judas, an early Christian text that was fell out of vogue during the creation of the Scriptural canon, insists that Judas was the most beloved of the disciples and most spiritually insightful, so he was called upon by Christ to be instrumental in the execution to unleash the Divine from the flesh. Later Christians violently disagreed about whether Judas was truly a bad guy or whether he acted on Christ’s wishes. (The kiss. The command — “That thou doest, do quickly.”)
But maybe this is too tangential.
Okay, I know this comment is, like, 6 weeks late….but I just found this blog through NiT, and I’ve been longing to discuss this..
I agree with Kat….Snape was acting on Dumbledore’s orders. As for Snape being such a jerk to Harry while escaping, I think he was using it as an opportunity to point out Harry’s flaws so that Harry could fix them. He was warning Harry to learn to close his mind so that Harry would have a better chance when facing Voldemort.