Comments on: Zimmerman The Space Prophet http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/ Datta Dayadhvam Damyata Shantih Shantih Shantih Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:26:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Big G http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-18697 Big G Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:08:37 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-18697 It appeared the Ceylons and Humans moving together as potentially 2 halves of a more complete race began early on in the BSG Series. It became fairly evident during the 3rd season as perhaps the almost metaphysical existence of Baltar seems to have a destiny designed to bring the two races together in a symbiotic relationship (why else does he continually survive his tortured existence?). It's clear humanity has lost their soul in the course of trying to survive with inferior resources and numbers, not to mention technological abilty. The Ceylons have become almost like what humanity once was, with a child like naivete as evidenced by their religous imagry and quest for purity of consciousness. Both species are incomplete and could the grand scheme of BSG be all about bringing them together in the end? And another thought emerged when I watched the final episode of season 4. Could the explanation of the 4 meta-Ceylons (I must admit to liking that description) be that perhaps the human race had previously evolved into these new type of Ceylons and were unaware of their own genesis? The original conflict could've been born out of almost Borg-like (as in man+machine) beings creating pure machines (the Ceylon machines) to serve them and then end up provoking them into the resultant war? And wouldn't it be particularely delicious if humanity's self awareness of what they really all are, can only come about by resolving the war with the original Ceylon machines they themselves invented? The obvious development of the Ceylon psyche and their quest in almost all things human (religous belief, self reproduction, individuality, rejection of authority, etc.) suggests they are looking for what humanity has long lost. And didn't we all really expect Starbuck to come back from the dead again? Now please excuse me while I kiss the sky (sorry Mr. Dylan)... It appeared the Ceylons and Humans moving together as potentially 2 halves of a more complete race began early on in the BSG Series. It became fairly evident during the 3rd season as perhaps the almost metaphysical existence of Baltar seems to have a destiny designed to bring the two races together in a symbiotic relationship (why else does he continually survive his tortured existence?). It’s clear humanity has lost their soul in the course of trying to survive with inferior resources and numbers, not to mention technological abilty. The Ceylons have become almost like what humanity once was, with a child like naivete as evidenced by their religous imagry and quest for purity of consciousness. Both species are incomplete and could the grand scheme of BSG be all about bringing them together in the end? And another thought emerged when I watched the final episode of season 4. Could the explanation of the 4 meta-Ceylons (I must admit to liking that description) be that perhaps the human race had previously evolved into these new type of Ceylons and were unaware of their own genesis? The original conflict could’ve been born out of almost Borg-like (as in man+machine) beings creating pure machines (the Ceylon machines) to serve them and then end up provoking them into the resultant war? And wouldn’t it be particularely delicious if humanity’s self awareness of what they really all are, can only come about by resolving the war with the original Ceylon machines they themselves invented? The obvious development of the Ceylon psyche and their quest in almost all things human (religous belief, self reproduction, individuality, rejection of authority, etc.) suggests they are looking for what humanity has long lost. And didn’t we all really expect Starbuck to come back from the dead again? Now please excuse me while I kiss the sky (sorry Mr. Dylan)…

]]> By: Urls Sinistras » Blog Archive » All Along the Watchtower http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6749 Urls Sinistras » Blog Archive » All Along the Watchtower Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:28:56 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6749 [...] temporada da série Battlestar Galactica. Há até quem esteja analisando a letra da música e fazendo links com a história contada pelo [...] [...] temporada da série Battlestar Galactica. Há até quem esteja analisando a letra da música e fazendo links com a história contada pelo [...]

]]> By: Michael Bandel http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6618 Michael Bandel Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:11:02 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6618 Just possibly, the cylons cannot survive without man and man cannot survive without the cylons, as represented by the struggle between the two for dominance. It reminds me of a line between when does a host and parasite generate into some new species, as evidenced by the passing on of both their genetic information as one. Remember, the Humans created the Cylons for what? To serve man? This would be relevant in the short view; but what if...... what if the real purpose of the Cylons is not to destroy humans, but to evolve a new human, to continue to transmit human genes into the future! Just possibly, the cylons cannot survive without man and man cannot survive without the cylons, as represented by the struggle between the two for dominance. It reminds me of a line between when does a host and parasite generate into some new species, as evidenced by the passing on of both their genetic information as one. Remember, the Humans created the Cylons for what? To serve man? This would be relevant in the short view; but what if…… what if the real purpose of the Cylons is not to destroy humans, but to evolve a new human, to continue to transmit human genes into the future!

]]> By: Michael Bandel http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6617 Michael Bandel Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:09:11 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6617 Just possibly, the cylons cannot survive without man and man cannot survive without the cylons, as represented by the struggle between the two for dominance. It reminds me of a line between when does a host and parasite generate into some new species, as evidenced by the which passes on of both their genetic information as one. Remember, the Humans created the Cylons for what? To serve man? This would be relevant in the short view; but what if...... what if the real purpose of the Cylons is not to destroy humans, but to evolve a new human, to continue to transmit human genes into the future! Just possibly, the cylons cannot survive without man and man cannot survive without the cylons, as represented by the struggle between the two for dominance. It reminds me of a line between when does a host and parasite generate into some new species, as evidenced by the which passes on of both their genetic information as one. Remember, the Humans created the Cylons for what? To serve man? This would be relevant in the short view; but what if…… what if the real purpose of the Cylons is not to destroy humans, but to evolve a new human, to continue to transmit human genes into the future!

]]> By: telene http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6559 telene Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:41:05 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6559 gotcha katherine :) it's an exciting prospect, and i near-<i>literally</i> can't wait 'til jan2008... gah, it's too long!! gotcha katherine :) it’s an exciting prospect, and i near-literally can’t wait ’til jan2008… gah, it’s too long!!

]]> By: Katherine Coble http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6556 Katherine Coble Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:26:44 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6556 telene, That's essentially what I mean when I say that to my mind the Final Five are a type of Meta-Cylon. I believe they're an evolved form of Cylon who intentionally seeded themselves in key positions to help the human resistance. telene,

That’s essentially what I mean when I say that to my mind the Final Five are a type of Meta-Cylon. I believe they’re an evolved form of Cylon who intentionally seeded themselves in key positions to help the human resistance.

]]> By: telene http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6555 telene Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:18:04 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6555 katherine: moore said kara was "dead"? i only read that he said it was a "major event". not "death". paul , i also thought (ok, i *hoped*.. i love starbuck!) kara would return, and it really makes most sense that she is cylon. but since moore hasn't verified, it's possible she's something else entirely... there's a theory i like. i already posted it somewhere, but i'll repost (cos i'm like that): **** regarding the the final 4 being "different", here's a thought: let's say they're not on the side of the other 7. it's definite that they're separate, since the main 7 don’t know their faces, and therefore are obviously not in their fleet (not existing, not rezzing, nada). so perhaps they are special cylons, ones who branched off from the 7 at some point because they felt for humanity, and didn’t want to harm them? perhaps they went to earth to oversee that the 13th tribe survives, and that’s why kara has been to earth (assuming she is cylon, despite moore’s non-disclosure). let’s say she rezzed there, came back to the vicinity of the fleet, and planted the obviously earthy song of “AATW” in the final 4’s heads? to ease them into recognizing their true nature? it's a theory. :) katherine: moore said kara was “dead”? i only read that he said it was a “major event”. not “death”.

paul , i also thought (ok, i *hoped*.. i love starbuck!) kara would return, and it really makes most sense that she is cylon. but since moore hasn’t verified, it’s possible she’s something else entirely…

there’s a theory i like. i already posted it somewhere, but i’ll repost (cos i’m like that):
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regarding the the final 4 being “different”, here’s a thought: let’s say they’re not on the side of the other 7. it’s definite that they’re separate, since the main 7 don’t know their faces, and therefore are obviously not in their fleet (not existing, not rezzing, nada).

so perhaps they are special cylons, ones who branched off from the 7 at some point because they felt for humanity, and didn’t want to harm them?

perhaps they went to earth to oversee that the 13th tribe survives, and that’s why kara has been to earth (assuming she is cylon, despite moore’s non-disclosure). let’s say she rezzed there, came back to the vicinity of the fleet, and planted the obviously earthy song of “AATW” in the final 4’s heads? to ease them into recognizing their true nature?

it’s a theory. :)

]]> By: Paul http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6514 Paul Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:32:56 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6514 I also predicted Starbucks return, but am I the only one who thinks she is one of the final 5 (like Tigh, Tirol, et al? I also predicted Starbucks return, but am I the only one who thinks she is one of the final 5 (like Tigh, Tirol, et al?

]]> By: Katherine Coble http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6470 Katherine Coble Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:32:44 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6470 What do you mean by "different"? Regardless, I don't trust Ron Moore, what with all the smooth lying he did about Kara being dead. What do you mean by “different”?

Regardless, I don’t trust Ron Moore, what with all the smooth lying he did about Kara being dead.

]]> By: Michael http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6469 Michael Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:04:23 +0000 http://mycropht.wordpress.com/2007/03/25/zimmerman-the-space-prophet/#comment-6469 Ron Moore has stated these are different Cylons...so we'll see what happens. Ron Moore has stated these are different Cylons…so we’ll see what happens.

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